Jim Tobin, President of Taxpayers United for America, talked to Robert Rees, host of The Morning Rush on Cities Talk FM 92.9, to discuss TUA’s pension study on Bloomington-Normal, Illinois. To listen, click on the audio player below.
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(CITIES 92.9 NEWSROOM)-Taxpayers United of America is an organization that tries to fight against tax increases and wasteful spending. President Jim Tobin will be at a news conference at 11am to announce the names and pensions of retired government workers in McLean County. The purpose, Tobin says, of these announcements is to highlight the huge gap between most Americans who work in the private sector and make far too little money and retire on nothing but under an $15,000 Social Security check and some government workers retire on a six figure pension with millions headed their way over their lifetime.
According to Tobin, Illinois is by far the worst when it comes to pensions and the system needs a drastic and COMPLETE overhaul. Employees contribute 10% more, healthcare contributions at 50%, raising the retirement age to 67 are among the many changes needed because Tobin says it’s impossible for us to tax our way out of this.
Findings from TUA’s pension project on Bloomington-Normal, Illinois, are featured in this story from The Pantagraph.
BLOOMINGTON — Jim Tobin, president of Taxpayers United of America, is traveling throughout Illinois, including a stop Tuesday in Bloomington, pitching his ideas for pension reform.
“Illinois is in horrible financial shape and yet taxpayers are still expected to pour their hard-earned money into a failed government pension system,” said Tobin. “The state’s in such bad shape. It can’t sell bonds; it can’t borrow money.”
Taxpayers United of America, which its website says was founded in 1976 as National Taxpayers United of Illinois, suggests, “Without sweeping and immediate reform, Illinois’ pension system will collapse.”
Tobin said reform must include: raising the retirement age to 67; increasing employee contributions by 10 percent; increasing health care contributions to 50 percent; eliminating all cost-of-living adjustments; and replacing the defined benefit system with a defined contribution system for all new hires.
While he used to lobby for reform, Tobin said he’s now “letting taxpayers know” through the media and by direct mail to TUA members and other known “activists.”
Tobin said the results of his organization’s new pension study of government employees in Bloomington, Normal, McLean County, schools and Illinois State University will be available on its website www.taxpayersunited.org.
The Pantagraph also has detailed pension information from a December 2011 series which can be found by clicking here.
Linda Horrell, communications director for the Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund that covers non-contract government employees in nearly 3,000 downstate local governments, said IMRF is not a state-funded pension system so it is not included in the state pension reform discussions.
IMRF is funded by employee and mandated employer contributions as well as investment income. Horrell said IMRF does not include compounded cost-of-living adjustments and doesn’t offer retirees health insurance. Recently adopted guidelines also change benefits for employees hired after Jan. 1, 2011, including raising the full pension age to 67 — up from 60.
Charlie McBarron, director of communications for the Illinois Education Association, said the IEA took part in a summit Monday to discuss the state’s pension problems. He said the organization is bringing numerous ideas to the table to solve the pension problems in a “fair and constitutional” way.
Illinois has a $96 billion pension shortfall.
Findings from TUA’s pension project on Bloomington-Normal, Illinois, are featured in this story from WGLT.
The head of a conservative anti tax group is publishing pension benefit amounts for retired McLean County teachers and government officials.
“And the biggest problem with Illinois’s catastrophic financial system are these lavish gold-plated pensions.”
Jim Tobin, the head of National Taxpayers United, says eliminating defined benefit plans and putting all new government workers into 401k accounts is necessary to rescue the state from fiscal crisis.
But, representatives for workers point out the group’s allegations of pension millionaires assume that retirees will live to age 85. Most don’t. They also accuse NTU of cherry picking data and using only top earners as examples, not the average retiree who receives between $32,000 and $46,000 depending on which union workforce is involved. Larry Alferink heads the ISU Annuitants Association and says state pension costs are not exhorbitant when taken as a portion of total compensation.
The cost of the pension system to the state of Illinois was 9.1%, recognizing that the cost of social security is 6.2%. So the actual cost of the pension system above what every other employer pays is less than 3%.
State employees, Alferink says, do not get Social Security and the state does not pay into that system for its employees. Alferink says private universities average at least 5% retirement costs above the 6.2% of compensation they contribute to Social Security. Alferink also notes the state’s problems stem not from the size of the pensions but from the state’s failure to pay its share of the costs over decades.
During the anti pension campaign stop in Bloomington Tobin said recovery will require Illinois to convert state workers to 401k accounts moving forward.
“They have to stop the government pensions for new government hires. That will eliminate all unfunded liabilities in the long run”
Tobin also wants the retirement age raised to 67 and workers in the current plan to pay 10% of their income toward retirement. Alferink says 401k systems typically do not work out so well.
“One out of every six people outlive their benefits and then they have to fall back on the state. In this case, since the state is paying for the pension system it doesn’t work out so well because they end up paying a second time when those individuals are destitute.”
Tobin’s group likes to claim that only 2% to 4% of lifetime pension benefits are paid by direct state employee contributions. But, Alferink notes that is misleading because nearly 70% of pension payments come from earnings on worker contributions over decades.
